No you haven't answered squat. I have responded with short concise answers full of factual information.

You have offered spin and bluster in return with no other offer of "proof" than to tell me that it's all posted at CP.




LOL! yes you have...you insinuated that very thing in posts in this thread.


I have posted no personal information about you. I have kept your real name out of this...though the temptation has been there and I have turned down offers from others to post personal...embarassing info about you in an attempt to "get back" for your posting personal stuff about me at CP.

It's called taking the high road.

Try it sometime.


I did no such thing. You asked what was wrong at the time...you sought me out to find out what was going on with me and I told you.

Plain and simple. Now you've chosen to use that information in an attempt to embarass and smear me because you're getting your ass handed to you on this issue.

Cheap DBR...real cheap.


I'll believe that when I see it. I'd really like to know where your donation effort is running over at WRACH...cause I was there the other day and didn't see anything.



How about spreading false malicious lies about organizations that have done nothing wrong? That falls under scum...and slime as well.


It's not MY organization...I'm merely taking you to task over bashing an organization...with false claims...that has been very good to me and my family...and I'm standing up for friends of mine that you have stabbed in the back with your drama queen antics.


What does it matter to you? Are you jealous that you're not sharing in their praise and success?

You better make sure your house is in order before you go peering over other peoples fences.


Thinking of myself? Project much? I think so. The only one making this any kind of conspiracy is you and the knuckle draggers at CP.

Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy here?

You're using words like "if" "in any event" "supposed"...you're not stating anything that's factual in nature...you're making presumptions. They have filed for all the paperwork they are supposed to and told to go ahead with how they are running things...told this mind you..BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA...now since the government officials involved with this kind of stuff have to review the paperwork before it's okayed...dontcha think if THEY'D seen something wrong they'd have stopped the process?

Or are you cliaiming that you're smarter than the experts?




Must be only obvious to you.




You keep saying that but don't show justification for your opinion.

Gee...I wonder why?

So big guy, why did you spend so much trying to find an exemption that you thought PP might fall under and take the trouble to refer to it (even if your link didn't work) while at the same time you're claiming that its not a charity anyway and none of it applies?


Ummm...how about so they can do even more things for the soldiers than what they're doing now?

Perhaps because they are limited in what they can do in their current status and applying to become a 501(c)(3) allows them to expand their operation?


SO far all I've seen is your claim that HiJinx said or wrote that on anything.

Post it here so we can see.

But to be honest I'll still be skeptical given the CP Mods penchant for "correcting" e-mails.


Or in yourcase...someone pissing up a rope.

Nope.

Good.

Ah - there - that was easy. Just like any forum - wait for the mail and click the link.

You should try it, tx. LOL

Anyway, howzabout getting your friends at Proud Patriots to tell everybody what has come in, what went out and who it went to?

And whether the receipients actually did anything to deserve receiving it?

My guess is that you won't ask them to do that - because critical thinking and good judgment just don't seem to be your strong suits. Take your disgusting attack on DBR.

She asked questions.

You know what? She is allowed to do that, and if everything is on the up and up, the questioned organization becomes stronger and a better recipient of donations for it.

Unfortunately, when the questioned organization stonewalls and hires halfwit investigators to gripe about sunshine then impressions rightly turn negative.

Grow up. Ask your buddies for the books.

Sorry I graduated from Internet 101 back in 1996.


For what reason? I mean other than for you monkey's over at the CP zoo to mock them even further and create even more colorful lies about them and what theydo?


Hmmm you mean like being deployed in Iraq...Afghanistan...Korea...et. al?

Tell me what have YOU done for a soldier lately? Besides bashing a group that helps them?


My disgusting attacks? Teh stoopid is sting with you isn't it?


She got answers. I'm sorry if the big words I used confused you...but she got answers. Granted they were truthful and didn't fit the bullshit she's been spewing...but she's gooten answers from me.

However...she and the rest of you knuckle dragging asshats haven't answered one question asked of you.


So you have no problem with her and your compadres at CP trying to falsely accuse an active duty service member...you know the guys you claim to "support" in trouble with his chain of command by making false allegations against him?

You have no problem with threats and claims that your partners in crime are "watching" certain people's houses?

Or how about one of the most basic rules of the internets....goes back to the IRC Chat days...you know...the one that says youdon't post personal information from e-mails and PM's in the open unless youhave that person's permission.




Really? Everything I've been told by them checks out.

Sadly...you and the rest of the Clown Pussies can't make that same claim.


Tell ya what...I'll do that when you do the same thing.

How's that grab ya?

You still don’t get it.

When Tonk came over to post the link to PP, it was left up, and the first post indicated no problem with PP except for financilal info. The majority of the Posse are conservatives and cynics to boot. Not an unreasonable request. Kind of like a salesman coming into your home to sell you something and being asked for the warranty information.

“Don't have a problem with the link, but we'll need demonstration of complete financial transparency.”

http://clownposse.org/forum/reviews....72&whichpage=1

Later on the page:
“Not interested in serving as your billboard, tonk. We'll leave them up till tomorrow at least, so the posse can have a look. How did you want to demonstrate that http://www.proudpatriots.org/ is something we should support? We'll need more than rhetoric. Tomorrow maybe some of our financial guys can give some direction in what you would need to do to alleviate any skepticism we may have.”

Those answers have never been rendered





No thanks, I'm watching my carbs.




You've got a valid logon at CP; come on over and look at my profile...you being an Army guy will be able to figure out why it matters to me.

For the rest of you, let's just say it's because of a debt of honor to a few guys whose names are chiseled on some rather somber pieces of black granite in our national capital. For them, for those who came before us and for those who are yet to come, I am obligated to do everything I can to ensure they get the fairest treatment possible by the often uncaring or uninformed civilian populace of this country.

For those of you reading this and rolling your eyes at that concept, consider yourselves beneath my notice...you wouldn't understand it anyway.

"And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by from this day until the ending of the world but we in it shall be remembered. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, For he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother, Be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition, and gentlemen in England now abed shall think themselves acursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks, that fought with us upon St. Crispin's day! " - Wm Shakespere


I see enough irregularities to make me wonder about the validity of Proud Patriots' effort in supporting the troops.

I also make a habit of busting wannabes too, so the inclusion of the PI and the link to USDRC was a bonus....I really do thank Tonk for the post...it was a three fer, AFAIC

I'm one of those ex-FReepers, an ex-monthly donor as a matter of fact, I left voluntarily because it is not the premier conservative website.


For the impromptu drive for WRMC there were no overhead costs. LNF and her helpers ate the expenses. I sent an extra bit over my pledge (as did others) with specific instructions to use it to help defray the costs of fuel and phone calls, but she added it to to general fund.

The only other costs that might be considered ( and that would be a reach) is the cost of running the site, $35 a month, but the administrators shoulder that burden. They refuse to ask for or take donations to help run the site. I know you're not used to that, but it doesn't take a quarter mil a year to run a website.


See how easy that was?




From me personally?

Damn, you just won't keep from throwing the smoke out. it's not about me...it's about Proud Patriots.

I'm not in the habit of patting myself on the back for what I contribute to and for the troops, but it does include time, including visiting the local VA hospital, money, correspondence, and when I see one that has just gotten back, I buy them a drink or a meal, and thank them for their service. That enough for you?

You gonna come over and answer the questions or what?

Bring your "A" game.

BTW, I couldn't help but see a picture of you with your family (You did post it in the public domain).

Nice looking family. What would your reaction be if anyone talked to one of your daughters (regardless of provocation) that way you talked to DBR?

Suggest you take a look in the mirror there, Hoss.

Oh I get it...you seem to be the clueless one.


Most of the Pussies...err...Possee from what I've seen get their rocks off posting porn pics at the CU canteen.

Great bunch you've cast your lot with there.



Actually if you were honest...which you're not...you'd admit that your problems really aren't with PP...but with FR and you've found a way...at least you think you have...to get at certain FReepers you don't like by going after PP with baseless claims.


They've been rendered asshat. Problem is...you don't liket he answers.



Yeah I know what your screen name stands for....goodie for you.

But what disgusts me is that you're giving people a pass who are purposely trying to jam up a fellow service member with baseless claims.

YOu familiar with the term "Blue Falcon"?

Something tells me you are.


*clap clap clap*....sounds good...too bad your actions in all of this and the people you've chosen to associate yourself with are the exact opposite of your noble boasts.


How snobbish of you.


Glad to see your Google-fu is working.



A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. - Paul Simon

You've been shown the evidence that blows holes in what your knuckle drtagging brethren at CP are spewing.

YOu've chosen to ignore it.

You've also turned a blind eye to their Gestapo style intimidation tactics.

Guess you never got to the NCO level did you?


Ohhh..."busting wannabe's"...shoudl I be impressed now or later?


Ahhh here we now get to the nub of your reason for going after PP.

As I said above...it has NOTHING to do with PP itself...it's the fact that it's associated with FR..and your dislike for JimRob...so you think you can get to him and smear FR by going after Proud Patriots.

Figures.



So you say. All we have is your alleged "word" on that.

If we handled this the same way you've "handled" the PP issue you've created over there...we could make all kinds of baseless accusations and claims about what you morons are doing with the supposed money you've raised.

How's that shoe feel on the other foot?


LOL! still kicking that old crap around are you? It's all been laid out over there before...try reading sometime...you might learn something.

I know it doesn't take much of a GT score to qualify as an 11B but c'mon.



Yeah pretty easy to finally see what the root cause of your bullshit claims about ProudPatriots really is.





Yoiu just proved otherwise. It's about you...ity's about you and the other assclowns over there that have a personal ae to grind with FR...and you're grinding that axe at the expense of an organization that's REALLY interested in helping soldiers...instead of a bunch of self-serving mouth breathers like CP.


So you say...until you show us proof of your efforts...I'm not convinced.

For all any of us here know...your "visiting the local VA" could consist of driving past it on your way to the local package store.


Why?


Oh that's origninal. Look around dumbass...all you CLown Pussy asshats have come in here and tried your little bullshit game on me...and I've knocked your best outta the park.

Fact by little fact.

So if anyone needs to work on their "A game"...it's you junior.


*shrugs* and?

DBR is a grown woman...a drama queen...but a grown woman none the less.

She brought this on herself.

If she's not big enough to take what she gives...she should keep her mouth shut.

That's some good advice all of you should consider.


Project much?

So Curahee...let me get this straight.

You claim to be a supporter of soldiers...allegedly do all these wonderful things at the VA..yet you:

Refuse to address the fact that a group you seem to proudly support and freely associate with has used intimidation and false claims to try and jam up an active duty Sailor with his command...insinuated that a person's house was being watched...and misrepresented themselves to a government agency.

The logical assumption is that by your silence on thises issues...you condone them and support these tactics.

In my book...as an NCO myself...that makes you a shitbag.

No decent soldier of even moderate decency would condone or allow anything like that to go on willingly to another soldier or one of their family members.

And what does it say about you that you would associate yourself with a group that's trying to fuck over soldiers who are on the recieving end of the generous care packages sent to them in Iraq...Afghanistan...and Korea by Proud Patriots?

You don't have to answer that last one...I think the answer is pretty clear to everyone reading this.

Being in the military does not mean that one is above doing bad things TX, that's why we have Military Police, and Military Courts and yes, that's why we have court martials too. So get off the high horse about "attacking a serviceman" because if John Young is involved in a company that is soliciting donations to support the troops while not complying with law, and using the money for other things besides sending stuff to troops, then he deserves whatever the consequences of his actions are.

All those people had to do was tell the truth and everything would have been fine, provided that they are all you claim they are. But they haven't, and that says a lot to me.

But you don't seem to understand a single word anyone says that doesn't agree with what you say, so I guess I'll have to use language you can understand.

Give me a fucking break with your bullshit about Charity organization vs. Charitable organization. Take your bullshit about non-profit and supposed special "oral" dispensations by supposed clerks of court to solicit without registration and shove that up your ass. Those assholes were caught with their pants down, and its their fault, not the RA's. if you think for one fucking minute that anyone believes that the RA was responsible for filing the papers that would have kept that would have allowed the company to solicit legally or keep the company's legal status current, you must be sniffing fucking glue. And I have never ever known a clerk to give legal advice either over the fucking phone or in person so fuck you, that ain't true either.

You must think everyone is as stupid as you are if you think we believe for even one fucking minute that those assholes are entitled to an fucking exemption from registration that is given to organizations that only solicit amongst their own members. Shove that up your ass, asshole, those assholes are soliciting money from the public, they solicited money from me, and I'm not a fucking member and they claimed its for the troops and they used a corporation that had no fucking legal status when they fucking solicited from me.

Those assholes refuse to show any transparency or evidence regarding what they do with the money. Now they are running away from Virginia to hide in Arizona, but that won't help these assholes, because they will still have to file information and receipts with regard to what they did with the fucking money. I have a right to know what they did with my fucking hard earned money.

Because there's an active duty serviceman on the board and some retired servicemen on the board, you think we are just to supposed to trust them because they wear a uniform. Fuck you asshole, tell that to the servicemen who were shot by Hasan Akbar while he wore a fucking uniform, okay asshole? Wearing a uniform doesn't mean you are exempt from humanity, and humanity has some shitty fucking elements.

All this bullshit could have been avoided if those assholes you call friends did the right thing in the first place but they made their choice and you are backing them up. They chose to hide, they chose to lie and you are helping them.

Uniform or not, that makes you an asshole too.

One way or the other, they are going to cough up that fucking information, and they better fucking account for every fucking thing, every fucking box of fucking wipes, every fucking battery, every single fucking thing they received from every single fucking organization that they fucking solicited and they better fucking account for every single fucking dime of donations they solicited from people, the fucking postage and the fucking packing materials.

Whoever the fuck you think I am, you are fucking wrong. I'm a fucking freeper although I'll never sign on to that fucking website again because of people like you and people like them. Those fuckers took my money, and I meant it for a care package for the troops, not for any fucking server to post fucking stolen music for fucking assholes. I meant that money to support a soldier and not to buy some fucking freeper a fucking computer or a fucking refrigerater or any other fucking thing.

And if they can't account for every single fucking dime they took from people like me, I will do everything I can do to make their fucking lives miserable.

Got that, you foul mouthed son of a bitch? It burns my ass to even think that a dime of my money might have gone to someone like you, who in light of what is happening right here and right now. How dare you help these people throw up a smokescreen and how dare you attack someone who was looking for the truth in such a foul manner. You are a disgrace, not only to your uniform and your position, but to the people who raised you and to your children.

Fuck you.

Now Mr. Moderator, you can ban this fucking account because I'm through with your fucking bullshit and your fucking lies.

Hopefully, there was enough fucking foul fucking language to get through your thick fucking head but just in case there wasn't, Fuck you!

Yet you and the other assclowns took it upon yourself to do what the Military Officials didn't feel necessary to do?

Aren't you quite the vigilante.

BTW...his command think you guys are a bunch of idiots.

I tend to concur.





They have told the truth...that you've chosen to ignore the facts says a LOT about you.


Oh I comprehend quite well. But all I hear and smell coming from you and the rest of the CP morons is bullshit.



Yeah I can see where the difference....and there is a BIG one...gives you problems with your bullshit claims.




And I have never ever known a clerk to give legal advice either over the fucking phone or in person so fuck you, that ain't true either.[/quote]

And this answers the facts presented to you how exactly?

Here I'll answer it for you...it doesn't answer anything....it's just mroe spin on your part.



You have anything other than your mouth that offers anything close to proof that the money given to PP wasn't used for care packages?

Anything at all? Didn't think so. I've got all the packing and customs slips from the care packages sent to me and the gifts given to my kids.

IUt's called a papertrail...I've got my own...PP has their own.

You've got dick.

As for the RA screwing up the application...The state believes it. The agancy responsible for this stuff believes it.

Good enough for me.


It went towards Oreo's...tank and cheese crackers for me...some logs of Cope for the guys in my unit that dip.

Some Valentines cards and a couple of stuffed aniumals for my kids.

But that's just me and that's just an example of what the money went for.


And this has exactly what to do with the issue at hand?

Oh wait is has nothing to do with the PP issue....it's your lame ass attempt at deflection.


They ARE friends...real friends...the only asshole here is you.



Oh...*gasp*...your words hurt me.

Not.



They've provided the information to the proper people.

YOu're NOT the "proper people".



I think your an ungrateful fuck with an axe to grind against FR and since you can't smear JimRob and FR...you're doing it second hand by going after FR members running a grass roots support the troops organization.

Thanks a lot...we troops just LOVE buddy fuckers like you.


If kicking good people for false reasons makes you feel big...that's pretty pathetic.



You know what...I've had better insults tossed at me by the morons at DemocraticUnderground.

Go take some notes fromthem and come back and try again.



$5 no kissing





Translated...I've run out of spin now I'm running away like a little bitch.


Why don't you go fuck yourself...you'll get more pussy that way.

Looks like DBR has been working on getting more fequent liar miles.

LOL! yeah she has.

And then has the gall to tell me that I'm a disgrace.

The last idiot that took TXRadioGuy on found herself running to Canada and whining all the way,Care to join her?